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38: Coffee Beaneries

This week we cover a slew of major tech news topics that we have been holding onto for a while. From the Spinn coffee update to major mergers to 1200 satalites we cover some serious ground.
38: Coffee Beaneries

This week we cover a slew of major tech news topics that we have been holding onto for a while.  From the Spinn coffee update to major mergers to 1200 satellites we cover some serious ground.

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[Music] Welcome everybody to episode 38 of the Coffinian Codecast, a live tech podcast where we talk about neither coffee or code. I'm Kyle Johnson. - And I'm Mike Sheehan. Welcome, thanks for joining us today. We've got a couple things. Spin June Update. - Oh, Spin June Update. - Spin Update. - Spin Update. And all the news. We had so much fun talking about WDC last week that we didn't get to cover any of the news. - Yeah, we've been kinda like Q-Wintered up. We just keep piling up more news, so we're gonna find a good to that. - Yeah, so we've got some good stuff in store for you today. So we're gonna talk about some Boost Discooter MacBook Pro Starlink, Salesforce acquisitions, all kinds of good stuff in here. Body wash? Body wash for your Xbox? Body wash by Xbox, that's what it is. I'm interested in that one. Yeah. For the three people that aren't watching the Bruins hockey game seven tonight, thanks for joining us here. People watch the NHL? Oh man. That's NHL, right? Not NBA. NHL, yeah, especially game seven, that's kind of the big one, dude. this is the end of the end. NBA is going on right now too, right? Yeah, NBA, Toronto and Golden State. Yeah, I don't really follow that. I don't really follow NBA much at all. I don't follow a lot of sports, but definitely not NBA. Well, see, I was gonna get a hockey team or are you gonna have a good time on board get season tickets? I don't think I'll get season tickets, but I'll go. I would love to go. I'm curious. Have you heard anything about the name of the franchise that would be here? It's still debatable. Did they pick it? I don't think, I don't know. I know there's a short list, like they have the Sock Eyes. - Hold the Samons. - Yeah. - Yeah, right. - Sock Eyes, Samon. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's though, like I don't know, the Rainiers, that always comes up and they have like short lists. - It's kind of an easy one. - Yeah. I don't know the other ones. There's probably, I don't know, half a dozen, 10, 10 of them, something like that. Yeah, so they're in the process of naming. They just announced an update on the construction progress, the key arena there. So the thing is, it's a historical monument, right? Because it's part of the super sonics were there when they won the championship. And so they can't do much to the facade or really the outer structure. So they're digging down, which is kind of crazy, man. Like some of the renderings look pretty spectacular. So they've taken out the walls. And now the supports will go down so far. So I have to build temporary structure to keep digging down, and then they'll reinforce it and just kind of keep the lid of the arena. - Yeah, key arena in Seattle Center, where the space needle is, it's a pretty major component of the whole complex. It's been there for a long time. A lot of teams go through it. A lot of different events. It's a concert venue at the moment. - It is. - Primarily, yeah. - But it's getting a major overhaul. I mean, the whole thing is getting gutted and rebuilt except for the outside. - Right, so I had to look it up. Here's what we got for team names for Seattle's NHL franchise, 'cause this definitely deals with coffee and code. - Excellent. I'm gonna talk about-- - Very topical, yeah. - Whichever the case might be. (laughing) - Well done. - Yeah. We have the Seattle Emeralds is one option. - Oh sure, okay. - Yeah. We have the Seattle Steelheads, which is another play on salmon. - Yeah. - And we like our salmon around here. We got the Seattle tsunami. That's a nice eliteration, I like that. - Seattle tsunami. - Rolls off the tongue nicely. - Yeah, that's good. - We have the Seattle Thunder. - Okay. How many names are in here, like 10? - 10, okay. We have the Seattle Sasquatch. - Hmm, oh my god. (laughing) How do I might bag there? - Yeah, the Seattle Rain, which is already taken. So how the hell are they gonna do that? That's the female soccer team, right? - Yeah, that's the ladies. - Yeah, that's-- - Although it's spelled differently, there's this like REIGN or whatever, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And this is just REIGN. - Oh, boo, that's a very creative idea. - They just had to, that's a filler. They had to find a couple extras to put in there. - Yeah. Well, there's the Seattle breakers. - Okay. - You don't sound excited about that one. - No. - We have the Seattle shield. What do the hell that means? - I don't know the fuck that's about. - That sounds like a rugby team. - Sure. - Yeah. And then there's the Seattle totems. - Oh, I don't mind that. I like that. - That's a nice Native American. What do you wanna call it? Girl back. - Yeah. - Yeah, that works. - Yeah. Seattle metropolitan. - No, that sucks. (laughing) - That's not the name of hockey team. - All right. - Well, those are your Seattle Starbucks, somebody recommended in the comments. - The Seattle Starbucks. If they sponsor it, you know, I'm on board with that one. - Howard Schultz throws enough dollars at that. I'm sure they could get that to happen. - Somebody else, there were Seattle lasers recommended. The Seattle Pounders. (laughing) - That wouldn't go or so. I like it, but I'm not sure that's a good idea. - Yeah. - This is a family friendly sport here. Come on, man. Just keep this thing, keep this thing out of the R rating. Yeah. Oh, awesome, dude. So yeah, there's that going on. How did we get on, NHL talk? Well because it's game seven of the Bruins tonight. So there's five brave souls that are checking us out right now during this fascinating game seven hockey action. And we should be so appreciate that. That's awesome. Oh, shout out to Darnell. Looks like Darnell popped in to say, take a peek at what's going on. Hey, what's going on? Yeah, man. I love that. So yeah, we're gonna cover the news that we missed last week. And so we really just talked about the worldwide developer conference that was happening in San Jose, Palo Alto, I guess, Palo Alto actually. And before we do, that little follow-up a little bit. Well, before you can move on, fear not. Apple fans, we're gonna talk about more Apple stuff. Really? In the news here. Yeah, there are a few news items for Apple in here. Let's see who hit us up here. Boom. Oh, bring back the sonics. I know, dude. I know, I know, I know. We're working on it. - Yeah, I saw Gary Payton wasn't down the other day. - Yeah, yeah. Somebody got some photos with him. - Right. - Yep. Excellent man. I am going to jump into the, can I jump in now? - Let's go. - You have my blessing. - Boom. I'm gonna jump into the Spin June update. So, you know, we just talked about Spin the other day, the coffee maker that I'll never ship, that I bought on Kickstarter two years ago for, undisclosed some of money. - Can I, can I stop you before we get too far down the update here? here. Sure. There's a lot in this update, a lot of a lot to do about nothing. I just want to mention that, you know, when I look at these statistics for the show, especially referral links that come from like Google, what's the number one thing that people are searching and finding our show? Spin coffee. Everybody wants to know. Everybody needs the update, man. Yeah, and there's not a lot of news out there about the spins, right? They come to us sometimes, you know, they find us. We cover it almost every week. It's true. Every other week. Yeah, Yeah, they did. They sent out their monthly status update on the coffee maker. This thing again is like, this is like the La Marzoco for your home countertop. It looks like a regular, it's a cylindrical coffee maker that fits under the cabinet, but it does everything from whole bean. It grinds the whole bean. It's Alexa enabled so you can ask it to make whatever you want. This is a-- - It has a lot of Marzoco. - Yeah. Well, that's the typical, that's the big commercial ones that you see. - Oh, that's the express machine that you see at all the coffee shops. - That's right, that's the big name. maybe want quality shit. That's what you do. You go a lot more Zoko. - Well, yeah, he's been 3500 grand or something on that thing, yeah. So yeah, this is supposedly the consumer version of that. They're bringing you this high level of quality in a consumer product. - Well, they're not bringing you anything yet. It's a political quality. - Right now they brought me a big coffee-built the neighborhood coffee place here, because I'm still waiting for it two and a half years later. But yeah, at this point, they're working on more tooling. They're getting very close to a production unit. I think it's probably six months away. So right now, they're working on finalizing the tooling. It looks like a lot of the testing-- much of the testing's completed. And so now, they're getting the tooling ready to make these things at scale. And they were just talking about some of the nuances of how they go in and they measure the grind of the coffee and do this and do that. And then they're also trying to work on their production workbench, the assembly line. They have jigs and other things that they need to speed up the assembly line so that when this thing is ready to manufacture that they can crank them out at a pretty quick whip and get them out there. So they give some updates on that. They were out showing this thing off at some cafe in France that some notable people were there like trying the coffee. And it got great reviews. Coffee was very good, very good reviews on the machines that they had there, so that's positive. The big update really wasn't about the hardware. They also have this other component in addition to the machine. So this machine has-- it's an internet device, right? So if you're a roaster and you-- I think I mentioned this before-- if you're making your own beans and you want to program exactly the temperature and the grind and all those types of details for your coffee bean, you can have that program in the device. So it just happens over the internet. So if I wanted to order that from the spin coffee shop, those recipes get downloaded into the machine and then it can really have some precise control over the temperature and the settings that it uses to make the different drinks. Yeah, the brewer has control. Whoever is the barista, if you will, they can say how to build the coffee in the perfect way. They do. So that's an interesting aspect that you just don't have in any other kind of machine. And on that note, they have now reached 10% of the, what do you call them? Like micro, not micro brewers, I don't know what you call them. Like the coffee bean market. There's like 4,400 independent coffee beaneries. I don't know how you call it, dude. - That's the technical term. - That's the technical term. But yeah, there's 4,400 in the United States and they have 440 of those. 10% of them now are on the spin marketplace so you can get their coffee from across the country all over the place. high quality coffee beans. Well, it's good that they're on the marketplace, even like you can use the damn machine. You can't use the machine, but the beans are available. You know it's coming. Everyone's getting very excited and no update on shipping yet, but rest assured, they've secured more financing and they're not going under and they appreciate your support, and they'll be back next month with another update. Yeah, but the assembly line is actually being created, so that's positive. Well, that's the thing. They're finally getting to that point where you're seeing like light at the end of the tunnel here. or even discussing that at this point is promising and the tooling's gone in because that's such an expensive part of the manufacturing process. And a lot of times in the beginning, early stages, you're just 3D printing stuff to quick prototype, rapid prototype these things. They're well beyond that. And they've tested different materials that they want to use and have identified ones that don't work and which ones do. And so all of these factors have been accounted for and now they're really almost pre-manufacturing stage here. - Yeah, well be advised, if this thing shows up your apartment. We're going to be having a live cast immediately unboxing video unboxing the whole night. We should reach out to the first first first brew. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We drink and coffee on the show Alexa enabled. We'll have Alexa make something like that. Try it out. Yeah, it's a super cool machine if it ever ships. When we get it, it'll be really fun. I can't wait. Yeah, very nice. Yeah, it's been coffee update. I love it. That's all I got to say about that. All right, was this a Was this like a 30 page report like the last one? Oh yeah, these things are so verbose the email that come in with like 40 pictures from every different engineering group. They're very thorough about it. So I give them credit for that. They're not really lacking in any detail other than they don't want to give any estimates anymore because they're two and a half years behind schedule. So they refuse to provide timelines. They just say, listen, we're going to show you everything we did in the last 30 days. And hopefully you don't want to refund, you know, because you can still, it's still refundable if you don't want to wait. - Maybe they could hire a PM. - Yeah. - Yeah, I don't know. They're getting their stuff together slowly. It's just taken a long time. - These kickstarter things are no guarantee, right? We talk about that. Like you put money down on something, you might get it. You might not. It might go bust. - It's a little bit of a gamble, for sure. - You know, our good friend, the Tariffkin, right? She got one of those fancy coolers. - Well, which one was that? That was the coolest cooler. - Yeah, I had like a fucking blender attachment on top of something. - You could make your margaritas, right? - Yeah, from your cooler there. - Yeah, insane. - Have a speaker built in battery packs so you can charge phones and stuff like that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Just a ridiculous cooler. - And so what, it was like 300, it was like the Yeti of coolers of its day and you paid what, $300, $400 for this pre-order? - Yeah, well it pre-ditted though Yeti. I'm like, I mean, they were, they were out even before then and I think-- - That's what I mean, it was like the Yeti of $400 cooler. - Yeah, it was expensive. This was the Kickstarter, right? - And it was a mess, you never got it. - Right, yeah, didn't get it. You can buy them on Amazon today, but she never got her backing. If you're not familiar with Kickstarter, you effectively are fronting money like Mike did for the spin with the expectation that sometime down the road you're gonna receive the product ideally. I mean, you don't have to back it with a product level amount. You might just back them and say, "Oh, I'm gonna get a attribution on some document or something like that." But most people will back it with the idea that they're gonna get the product at some point. And yeah, they just never delivered the product with your backers and started selling it instead. - Didn't happen. - Yeah. Still doesn't have it to this day, which is funny. - Yeah, so there you go. And that's my recap on Kickstarter. I hope this thing delivers. It's very good that they're keeping the updates. They're not going quiet, so I think it's gonna happen. - Yeah. - I would love it to happen this year. We'll see what happens. - We'll be there when it does. - We tuned, yeah. Good. Oh, I had a little update for you. We had a little visit in the office today. One of our earliest listeners, Old Street Jack, Old Simon was in here today. he might be listening now if you are reach out to let me know on facebook on the slack channel yeah i was a little disappointed i didn't get a meet-up i saw walking through the hallway i you know i've heard his name a lot in the in the interact with us a lot on the show and i didn't didn't know exactly who it was so uh... i was disappointed i didn't get a meet-up he's he was willing to uh... he offered up some more coffee was a starbucks you know he's been there for about five years now engineering and and doing really well over there but uh... offered to bring some more beans but he said he wanted his t-shirt I told my tough talk to you about that. - Well, we can work on T-shirts. Maybe a T-shirt that says beans from the beenery. - From the beenery, dude. Yeah. - You gotta be careful in which context you're throwing that around, and then back where I'm from, I'm like, it's in trouble, you know. - Yeah. I think that would be a great shirt. - Yeah, that'll sell out quickly, man. Get our merch. We gotta go to merch stand, set up and run in, man. - Yeah. - We got the stickers, but. - We do have the stickers if anybody wants a sticker. I need to send them on to Goemer. He hit me up recently. - Yeah, those are free. Well, that doesn't help. We gotta get the merch running, you know? - Oh, you want a little income, huh? - Yeah, we gotta get like the hoodies and all that stuff, you know, with that going up there. - We'll work on that. - Okay. - If there's any interest, if you're interested, let us know because we will put an order together. We'll figure it out. - I am gonna get, I wanna get a short order in so that we can get Simon one, you know? Simon and the bagel and some of those guys. - Yeah, and our boss Brad said he would take one. - Yep, yep, oh, mom's texting, she just wanted to see how things are going, doing pretty good. I'm on the cast right now. - Is she a listener? - No, she's not. She just sent me a text message. - You need to get her on the Facebook and-- - Yeah, she doesn't have a Facebook either, man. - Oh, you know, one thing at a time, man. She's got a smartphone like a few weeks ago, so. - I just set my mom up with Apple CarPlay while I was home. - Whoa! - I just took a trip back to the Midwest. That's why we recorded last week early. - Yeah, Tuesday. - Set her up with the podcast app. Apple Podcasts, so she can get the cast now and she can listen to it via CarPlay. - Oh, that's good. Now, I will say this, like CarPlay does a pretty good job. It's foolproof for the most part, right? I don't even know what the setup is. Do you plug the phone in? It can do Bluetooth or you plug it in? - I think you have to plug it in. I'm pretty certain, 'cause once you make that connection, that's when the CarPlay knows to kick in and open up. - And that it disables the screen sort of, so you can't go around on that. - Yep. - Yeah, that's even better than Bluetooth, because if you have to fuck around with that, most people aren't gonna wanna, if you don't know the technology well, it's just gonna be a hassle. You wanna just get in the car and go and not have to worry about it. - Yeah. - Yeah, so yeah. Maybe she's listening in the car as we speak. - Okay. - But yeah. - She's just getting the car and drive around for an hour while you're on, everyone's there. - Maybe. - I mean, what else are you gonna do in our city? - In Albert city? - Albert city. - Oh, that's right. I always forgot the plate. You were in Northwest Iowa as we were born and raised. - Yep. - Little town of less than 800. - Wow, man. That's pretty small. - Yeah. - I have some relatives that are in Steiner de Brasco from Steiner and that was like 72 people or something like that. - Yeah. - It's not even a town. - I think it was like one, they had a big church, a cemetery, and they had-- - Of course they had a church. - Yeah. And then they had like one building that at the end of this main street that was kind of like the bar, convenient store, post office, you know, kind of the catch all. - Yeah. - Whatever you needed over there. - We had a similar thing, bar restaurant, video rental store, and liquor store, all in one. - All in one, dude. - Yeah. - Yeah. - One stop shop, dude. - There you go. - Yeah, that's good. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like going back to some of those small towns, man. They're fun for a little bit. As long as you have a good bar and some cold beer, I'm pretty happy. - Cold beer. You can get cold beer there for three bucks, man. I got a bud light for three bucks. - Really? - Yeah. - That's not great. It's not terrible. - I'm a better than here. What are you gonna get a bud light here for? - Well, it depends, man. But usually you're gonna pay probably five bucks. - Yeah. - Yeah. - You can do like $1.50. - Eight or nine bucks for like a premium. If I want to, now I fall into the Mariners stadium, I might be paying like 12 bucks for that. - Well, yeah. (laughing) Thank you very much. - Yeah. But yeah, I was good to see Simon in the office. Like I said, I wish I would have met him. I wish I would have been able to say hello. - Yeah. - Maybe he'll be able to join the show at some point. I think we've talked about that before, haven't we? - We do, I do want him to show. I've been really slacking off on the guest list. We have a list. We haven't done a whole lot to bring people on, but it's time to get that figured out, man. We've just been busy with work and deadlines, and so maybe something coming up next month, We can bring some people on the show. 'Cause I really like to branch out a little bit there. - Yeah, right on. Let's make that shit happen, man. That'd be good. - Well, let's move on to the next topic. We're gonna skip over this one. So let's talk about Delta Sky Miles matching. - Yeah, this is huge, man. This is huge. I'm excited about this. So I may, you know, I've been on a mileage run, fanatic the last couple of years. Mainly 'cause I was traveling a bit for work when I was in San Francisco, up to Seattle, And then now that I'm back here, I wanted to keep the tradition alive. So I've been earning my status. I went from MVP to MVP gold this year on Alaska, which is pretty good. There's three levels. It's kind of the middle tier. And you get a lot of cool upgrades with that. Alaska and Delta are big competitors in this space. Delta came to Seattle five years ago. And they have a pretty cutthroat competitive thing going on. And so in the spirit of the fifth year anniversary, they're doing some things for folks in Seattle. are pretty cool. So if you are up here and you are in Alaska mileage plan member, you definitely want to check out the Delta Sky Miles match challenge. They will match your status. Well, and if you're not in the market for a credit card, I have a referral link for you. Yeah, I think I'll send it to you later. It's over here. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's good. It's good. It's a great program. I mean, here's the unfortunate thing. I have some unfortunate news because my brother and my mom, they're cut, you know, in Omaha and my sister and like they're all coming out to visit in July. We're going to go take a little trip up here and they're on Alaska and they didn't have a great experience booking the tickets unfortunately. And it's one of those things because the competition is so great so they, you have to pay to play and that's kind of the problem, right? So they have the savor affairs now which is kind of like your economy where you pay for your own check-in luggage if you want to check in. I'm not checking, but like if you want to bring a overhead. Yeah, real no frills. You're not guaranteed like any kind of space on the plane as far as like your baggage to go to those or any of that kind of stuff, right? Right, exactly. That's carry on. Yeah, at least carry on. And so, yeah, the problem was they were trying to get assigned seats. And so they bought four tickets. They're trying to find seats. And they said, "Gee's the only thing available is like premium economy. $69 a piece." And so I looked at my phone. I pulled up the app. I go in there. I can see all these seats roll 11 through 18 as wide open. Grab any of those and they said they don't show up. They're all x'd out on our screen. And so I called the lady on the gold hotline and I said, "What's the deal?" They don't see the seats and they explain to me, basically, that they only allocate the last third of the plane for main non-refundable tickets. And so once that fills up, you can still buy at the same price, but you're not guaranteed to see the assignment until like the day of booking. - Yeah. - Because they want to try to sell refundable tickets in the middle of the plane, which are significantly more money, and then of course the premium economy, which are even more. So for them, it would have been some serious dough that would have added up to hundreds and hundreds of dollars just to get a signed seat on the plane. - Alaska is like commonly rated number one in terms of customer satisfaction. So it's a little bit disappointing to hear that, maybe there's some bad experiences being had there. I think it speaks more to the airline industry as a whole, because I don't think that they're performing any worse than other airlines are. I mean, this is a very common story that I hear with Delta. It's worse on other places like Frontier, where you have to pay for everything. - Well, they're a bargain airline, right? - Right, and that's kind of how they're advertised. - Spirit and nose types, yeah. - Yeah, so I think it's just the competitive nature and the thin margins right now that everybody's trying to scrape dollars anywhere they can. So I did see that in the Puget Sound Business Journal, the Alaska was rated number one again for I think the 12 year and a half. - Yeah, and I think just narrowly beating out Delta, I think Delta's next. - Yeah, really close. See that? It was only, the margin was very thin. Beyond them it was what maybe American, blah, blah, blah, something in United, I don't know, I don't remember now. - Yeah. - But I love Alaska and I love Delta. I think they're both very good. The status match is very cool too. So like I said, because I'm on MVP Gold with Alaska, I feel at the forum and a few weeks later, I got upgraded to Platinum Adalion on Delta. - Top tier Delta status. - Yeah, I mean diamonds one more higher, but like that's pretty baller shit. - That's pretty hard to get. - You can pretty much get first class upgrades and that sort of thing with Platinum Adalion. - Pretty much, yeah, will, yeah. (laughing) So for the next three months, like any Delta flights, I'm gonna be riding up front, which would be kind of fun. - Speaking of that, riding back to Iowa, I had first class every leg. So I went through Salt Lake City on the way. Salt Lake City to Omaha, and then Omaha to Minneapolis, and then back to Seattle. And I had first class upgrades on every single leg, except for the Minneapolis to Seattle, which I'm not surprised by that, just because that's a pretty major flight. Anything connects over there. A lot of people going on that flight, right? So, but that was pretty awesome. I definitely enjoyed that. Was able to even do a lot of work on the plane due to our project that we've been working on and that sort of thing. So, it was pretty awesome. - So, doing work on the plane, did you have any of the new high speed internet up there? - It wasn't advertised specifically, but on the first plane that I was on, it was definitely cooking. - Yeah. - You know, I didn't try to stream anything, but I feel like on planes, the Wi-Fi generally, you're gonna wait for everything. You're gonna click a button, and you're gonna wait five seconds for something to happen, right? - Yes. - And this was just super snappy, kind of what you'd expect from your home Wi-Fi or whatever. - I've been impressed. I've been impressed with Delta's rollout of 2KU, because this is the new high speed internet that replaces like the GoGo V1 type thing where it was good enough for basic internet and that kind of shit, but it wasn't good for streaming video or anything. Well, 2KU, you can stream video and you do pay a bit of more of a premium for it usually, but I've been on several Delta flights in the last six weeks that all have 'em. And so I don't know how close they are to getting their fleet retrofitted, but they're doing a lot better than Alaska's that front. I've only been on a couple Alaska flights that have that in there, but you know, it's good stuff. It's coming. And yeah, I was watching Netflix streaming Netflix on the flight. Came out really well. I mean, it was doing and watching MLB. I was watching a baseball game. Pretty crazy that you're flying 600 miles an hour, 30,000 feet in the air, live streaming a fucking baseball game. We talked about that, I think, maybe on the show already, but yeah, you can sit on your laptop and live stream, but you can't receive a fucking picture on your phone. Yeah, that is the problem. Is that like, right now, especially I just do, what do you call it? I get with T-Mobile, I get free GoGo on the phone. It doesn't send photos. It's a very, it's like dial up. You know, I think I can hear it in the background. Yeah. What is this? Gomer is hitting us up here. Gomer, JetBlue, several customers who are in a chair in the sky zooming along at five miles an hour complained their internet was too slow. That is the truth man. I would never complain about that. I mean I I bitch about it here but I'm not going to complain about it. You're not going to complain to the to the airline. Yeah. Yeah. Oh god damn. What complain here? Why is it so slow? What else are we going to do for an hour? Several customers in a chair in the sky. Zooming along at five on miles. Yeah. Complaining their internet was too slow. That's too bad. Yeah, they probably spitting their snacks. Oh, you don't want to piss off the flight attendance man You don't want to piss off anybody in food service in general. I got a tough job. Yeah. Yeah, or food service for that matter That's right. Yeah That's that's too bad. I should move on to the news. Let's go. Let's move on man We got some big news out of Seattle actually a couple sales forces San Francisco based company, right? They do huge We use Salesforce here. >> We do. This is huge news. This is like really huge news. >> Big deal this happened this week. >> So sales for things before you go on with this. If you're not familiar with what Salesforce is or Tableau, two companies that we're going to talk about here. Salesforce is a CRM is what they call a customer relationship. >> Manager. >> Manager. >> Management. >> What do you want to say? >> Yeah. >> So just kind of manages like sales contacts. If you're trying to make sales, This is how you manage who you're talking to, where your leads are, so on and so forth. Just a tool. - We use it here. It's a huge software as a service. It was one of the first SaaS offerings that I'm aware of, at least at this scale. I mean, there are revenues now, or I don't know, trillions of dollars, I don't even know. - They're massive, yeah. - Yeah, they have that new Salesforce tower in downtown San Francisco, and they're just exploding everywhere. - Right. - And so yeah, the idea is you pay a monthly fee per user and all this kind of shit, and then your whole sales staff can use this to-- - Our customer service uses it, our sales team uses it, and we've got a whole floor dedicated to those folks, so that's a pretty big deal. - And of course a whole bunch of stuff integrates with it, you know, 'cause it's a major player in the space. So really big company, really big product used by every major company, probably, really. - They do, yeah, it's outsourced CRM. And Tableau is, we looked at them before in my previous company, when I was at Stanley, we looked at that product. I don't know if they went with that or not, but that's a data visualization company that really will take all of your data in the backend, all of your metrics, sales data, all kinds of things like that and make amazing data visualizations out of that for you. - And they're a Seattle based company. So they're headquartered here, right? - Yeah, they are. They're down here in South Lake Union. - Right. - No, downtown Fremont. I think they're over there by the, what is that thing? on the way to the baller locks, whatever that body of water is, from the ocean to the baller locks, you know, like that fucking cut. They're like right along, Montenegro not Montenegro. - Oh, that's further down. - I can't think of the name of it right now. I needed my cooers light to sharpen my brain cells, man. I didn't-- - Well, good one. - I didn't crack-- which one is it? This one? - It's the blue one. - You're gonna find out-- - Oh, that's-- - That's bully. - Mere. - That's wrong, too. Hey, there it is. (laughing) I'll hear that one again. - Mere. - Oh, that's good. I was bully doing today. going to find out I smoked the wacky weed. Oh no Joseph, stay away from the wacky weed buddy. Nobody likes that. Anyway yeah, they're down by the water in the freemont, downtown freemont, whatever the hell that's called. And I actually know a few people that work over there, good company. They were acquired this week by Salesforce, big acquisition. Huge acquisition. Is this the biggest, one of the biggest? In tech or what? Yeah. know what i i just discovered this the largest acquisition was del acquiring emc sixty seven billion dollars when did that occur uh... five years ago well so that's a big deal being five years ago uh... at least i mean maybe a few more i think it was twenty fourteen something like that uh... correct me from wrong but that was that was the largest acquisition sixty seven billion dollars yeah that's huge unbelievable to write So here it says, Tableau has 86,000 customers, business customers, including major players, Charles Schwab, Verizon, Southwest, Netflix, all the big people that you would expect. Just crazy, huge companies both coming together and it's going to be a huge thing for Seattle. Right? It's going to be a huge boom to the economy here, right? I mean, there was a $15 billion acquisition here. major, major major. I don't know how many employees they have there a few thousand employees. That's what I was looking forward to see if it was listed here, but I don't see unless I'm overlooking it. But just a huge transaction, it was just announced what on Monday. Monday morning I think. Yeah, so not a ton to talk about I guess really, but it's just a huge, that's a huge shake up in the biz. Those two companies have been around for quite a while. And for a local company too, that's very impressive to have that kind of a sale. They've been a solid company. Their growth has been off the charts. And so now that they're part of Salesforce, who knows where that can go? But they seems like a pretty good fit. Seems like a pretty healthy marriage between those two. I'm sure that Salesforce will eat their own dog food there and probably put a tablo all over their CRM, but then also just the customer growth. The customer base that they have, they could extend this out to, would be pretty massive. Yeah, so basically like the world, it says here, the world's large CRM and the world's biggest analytics platform in one package. That's pretty big, because a product like Salesforce not only does it manage like the general data of the customers, but it also does a lot of different types of reporting metrics and visualizations and graphing and so on. That sort of thing. You can customize it quite a bit. So I'm sure there's going to be a lot of tight integrations to bring that world over to the Salesforce world. >> Well, in the data visualization world is just taken off too in the last five years or so, I would say, we used to just kind of roll our own stuff around here, we had our own reporting tools that we built with some charting library that was online or something. And now we're using Power BI because we're on the Microsoft stack and we get licensing deals to them. But if it wasn't, and we rely on that pretty heavily. I mean, it's more and more every day where we're leaning on tools like Power BI to visualize the data for things like error reporting on the website and not just sales trends and what's happening, but also monitoring our own traffic and just seeing what's happening on the low level side of things. >> Well, managing huge amounts of data like that is hard, right? You can store all the data you want. You could put terabytes and terabytes of data in one location, but to be able to query all that information effectively is incredibly difficult. - I would say there's two pieces. One is, yes, the querying is a huge problem. The other problem that we've run into also is people want real-time analytics. We want our business wants to know what's happening in the last five minutes. - Right. - And that's an extremely complex task that requires so much compute power if you're trying to bring in millions and millions of records in real time to figure out what's happening right now. But these tools can consume and ingest millions and millions of records and they can update on the fly and they're pretty well optimized to handle real time data. So that's a major benefit having those tools. It's going to be really interesting to see how this plays out in what effect this has on Tableau, especially here in the Seattle market, since we're both based here. I know a bunch of people that have been employed with Tableau. So yeah, I'm not excited to see what happens and what comes of that. If the Bay Area is very expensive, Seattle is expensive as well, but not nearly as bad as the Bay Area. So it'll be interesting to see if Salesforce decides to leverage some Seattle talent. Right? So just another major player in the Seattle area to increase the available jobs and so on and so forth. Don't be surprised if some of your friends are moving in the next three months or something I get new new houses Yeah, they had any spifts over there, right? They've cashed in pretty well Yeah, what was the what was the amount of it was an all stock transaction was it right? I didn't see the terms of the deal Yeah, I don't know. Oh, well, that's unfortunate because sales force stock took a plunge after that One down 8% you spent 15 billion or yeah, yeah 15.7 billion We're not so confident in your bottom line anymore. (laughs) - It'll be fine. I'm not worried about Salesforce. They're not gonna go anywhere, man. They're doing just fine. - Well, let's move on to the next item. I'm excited about this because this is Teslas. - Yeah. - Sister company. - Oh my gosh, I can just see how excited you're over there, man. He's getting all clammy and shit. Oh my god. Yeah, this is exciting. I wish we had time to talk about it last week, we didn't. But there was a, the end of May, I think it was May 29th. There was the last week of May. SpaceX, the, yeah, sister company to Tesla and what the boring company. >>Boring company, yeah. >>And to a lesser degree, Tesla Solar, Solar City. >>Those are under the Tesla brand. >>Yeah. >>That's not a separate company. >>Oh, it is. >>So, yeah, like SpaceX had a successful launch of their, well, this, the Starlink program. We should talk about that first. Starlink is their global space satellite internet network. It's a proof of concept right now, right? But they sent 60 satellites into space at the end of May. In a low orbit. Yeah. Low orbit. Now this was impressive too. Did you see the video? I haven't watched the video. You got to watch the video, even just skip through. They do such a nice job with how they present the whole mission. And so you get kind of this heads up display on the TV and it shows you all kind of like a digital dashboard of The telemetry right so you can see the rocket and its position and where it's going and like what the stages of the mission are and the speed and all this stuff And you can even watch the now that they have the what the the lower Whereas at the booster that comes back down. Oh and lands itself on the pad. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, the lower stage That's not I think it was right lower stage of the rocket will come back and like drive itself to the to the barge on the in the water. Reusable. Reusable rock. It's wicked crazy shit. Yeah. One thing just to get a rocket up there like that. I mean, this is a massive rocket. The Falcon Heavy. Yep. And this is what the Falcon Heavy was the one that they put the Tesla in the ferry. (laughing) In the guy with the space suit. Yeah. The Model 3 or was it the roadster? I don't remember. I think it was the roadster. And that was Elon's too, because he was taking his kids around in it. (laughing) And so yeah. That was the Falcon Heavy and this thing, it's impressive enough to get it up. They got it back down and they recover at a lower stage and some of the other parts as well, the fairing gets really, I think everything is pretty much captured, recovered. Yeah, that's super impressive when you, especially when you start to think about like, okay, that's one thing to land it on land. Yeah. But now you're landing it on the sea, which is not a stable platform to begin with. You're landing on sea, but also like the velocity that thing comes back into the atmosphere with, like it's so fucking hot, like things would normally melt or fall apart. This thing's coming in, it's, get it, you know, rapid descent, crazy temperature, then it fires up an engine to slow itself down and then like navigates to a pad and lands and then just turns off and it's ready to go for next time. If you haven't seen this on like videos on YouTube, you should check it out. It's really impressive to watch. It's amazing. Yeah, like it's amazing what they've done. And because of this, like the cost to get into space now is just like going down and down and down. Yeah. Because they don't have to build a new rocket every time. Right. of the damn operation. So anyway, the cool part about Starlink is that this is Elon's mission to provide a global broadband network, global internet using lots of little satellites. This test was to get 60 of them up in space. The cool part about this video, what I liked about this is when they opened up the fairing and they released the 60 of them, each one of these is the size of a medium pizza box, roughly. Okay, so imagine 60 of these guys, they're about 500 pounds a piece. They get released in the, what, they're in the low orbit, you said. - Yeah, they're below what a traditional satellite. - I forgot what it was. - But I thought it was like 400 kilometers or something. - Yeah. And that's kind of where the reason that they did that is because of speed, the distance to travel for the data to the satellite is less than if it's in a higher orbit. So that's partially why they wanted the lower orbit like that. - Low latency network. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So what I thought was impressive is when they released all 60 of these into the atmosphere they all kind of The way I don't know how he did this, but they have their own navigational systems and they're able to maneuver but they kind of all went from being in a big brick to Slowly separating apart into a line and yeah, they were really just gonna start like kind of getting into their own orbit >> Yep, they have contact with each other with one another. >> Right. >> And I did see one video actually, not a full launch, but of the actual device itself. Yeah, like you described it's a pizza box, but then it's like an accordion folded solar array on it. So like you would see this thing like slowly coming up and sticking out like a sail to power the device. >> Yeah. >> So you just saw a line of these things like all of a sudden, like sticking up a solar array, it was pretty cool. >> How the hell? So the other aspect of this, So they're doing a test with 60. But the goal ultimately is 12,000. - Yeah, there's a ton of them. And the goal of the whole project is to get internet services to underserved or poorly served regions of Earth. - Really any rural part of the, any part of the terrain, I don't think there's any area that you couldn't get coverage for, right? - Yeah. - At that point, everything's covered. - You need to have a receiver though, not an individual, but I think that they would have receivers on the ground that would relay the messages and then probably connect them to fiber or whatever. So I think like somebody had asked a question on Reddit if this would, a lot of times on cargo ships. The internet there is extremely expensive and the quality is very poor and it's slow download speeds. Would this solve that problem? I think it would, but you might need to have some kind of receiver on the boat. - Yeah, I hate to bring this up, but during the Tesla shareholder meeting. - Oh, God. (laughing) - I get a Tesla swear jar for you, man. Every time you say Tesla, you gotta put in a dollar. Or Chogabir. - Oh, I'd be drunken to hurry. - That's right. - Yeah. Somebody asked Elon actually about this because they were wondering if the Tesla vehicles could use Starlink as their internet provider rather than using LTE. - Oh, yeah, of course. - And he was saying, yeah, for maybe for a truck, maybe for a semi or the bigger vehicles. - Yeah. - The smaller vehicles, he said, the antenna receiver is again the size of a pizza box. >> Okay. >> So it would look ridiculous on a Model 3 or one of the smaller vehicles. But a boat, obviously that would be fine or any other vehicle like that. But he did kind of agree with you on that term. >> Yeah. And then, sure, the technology will get smaller. It will improve over time. But you're right. With this mesh network, 12,000 satellites, you can deliver internet to every corner of the earth, really. >> Yeah. And that's a goal. is not currently available. Like, we immediately think of rural areas in the United States or whatever that have poor coverage via some sort of high speed. But this is more grand than that. You might have third world countries that just don't have internet service period or don't have the capacity to run lines or you start to think about like military or something like that where maybe you're reliant on other satellites or cellular networks or something like that. redundant option that's available pretty much anywhere in the world. Yeah, high speed as well. Right. So, it was a success. The launch was successful. They're making progress on this initiative. I think their valuation now is somewhere along lines like $35 billion there for that one. Yeah. So it's fun to watch. We'll definitely be talking about Starlink as we go forward because I think this is such a cool project and really don't talk about SpaceX enough because what they're doing is to me way more impressive than what Tesla's doing. I'm sorry, I don't like you down there, man. I mean, don't get me wrong. I love Tesla, but SpaceX. - Well, this is not without its critics. I can tell you that astronomers are very concerned about Starlink as a whole. - Yeah. - Because these satellites emit light. - Well, they do. - Is what I understand from-- - Is it like a laser, is that the whole thing? It's some kind of-- - I don't know if it's like the light that is for communicating back and forth between the satellites themselves or if they just emit light. Basically, the concern from the astronomers is that it's going to create a bright sky. - 12,000 of them. - Yeah, LEDs on the... - Right, or maybe it's the reflection off of the array. The solar array, I'm not sure exactly where the light's coming from. But there's definitely a lot of articles that have been released even just immediately after this, asking for SpaceX to kind of slow the roll out of this. - Okay. - So they can evaluate what it's going to do to the sky. 'Cause you can see these, they're in low orbit. Yeah, right. They're not like a satellite that you can't see. You can even see the space station. I mean, on a given night. So you think about having 12,000 of these things rolling around the earth, you're probably going to be able to see them in some capacity. I wonder what it would look like. Would it seem, would it appear like a star would or is it because it's lower or even bigger, brighter? I mean, I'm sure you'd have to have some sort of a large camera or telescope to be able to see them in with much clarity. Yeah. I'm sure it would just be a ball of light, or some sort of reflective light or something like that. But yeah, there's a lot of concern from astronomers. I had the number on here at some point. I don't know where I lost my page. But quite a large number of astronomy people have kind of banded together and said like, hey, SpaceX, let's go down here. Let's evaluate what this is going to do to the Earth sky before we put-- we'll say 12,000 of these things in here. 12,000 here. Yeah, throw them up there. Yeah, that happens. - Well, what does this do to space travel as a whole? Because to me, that's a dense mesh. - A lot of stuff floating around. - That you're gonna be flying through and rockets going up and all kinds of shit. How do you, I know that there's a, the government has, the US government that maintains a database of all the space debris. So you have to take that into account like when you're flying a mission. And I don't know how they program it in, but they just know that yeah, we might encounter this piece of space trash. - Yeah, you know, at this point in the mission. - Right. - But with 12,000 of these things, I'd think, "Fuck man, somebody's gonna have a collision "with one of them." - Yeah, I don't know. - IAU, which represents 13,000 astronomers. - Okay. - Said that basically we need to work together more closely and create a regulatory framework for satellites in general. Basically, don't let people create ad hoc satellites as they feel the need to, right? So, pretty cool stuff. I hope they succeed with this. I think the goal is great. Obviously there's a little bit of concern as there is with anything new. Hopefully we can work with everybody and work those things out. 'Cause I think the internet this day and age is a requirement for pretty much everybody. So we need to get there and we need to get it available to everybody. And if you can't lay landlines reliably. - Nor do we want to anymore. I don't think there's even a benefit. I mean, fiber optic, the main pipes, of course, because the bandwidth is so mega. Like you've got Facebook and Google building these lines. We talked about this, you know, trans continental lines. But I would think like trying to get to, you know, sub-Saharan Africa, you probably just don't want to bury some fiber optic, like just get some of these fucking satellites up there. - Yeah. Yeah. - Get the Google balloon, right? There we go. - That was the Google that Facebook? - Oh, maybe it was Facebook. I thought it was Google. - A million different hot air balloons or something. - Yeah, and they had solar as well or something, so they could always stay in flight. Well, that was before everybody hated them. - Yeah, I don't know. I don't like them anymore. There was a deep fake of Mark Zuckerberg floating around the other day. Did you see that? - No. - Yeah, they put it up on Instagram because I think it was a response that Facebook owns Instagram and they had made a comment previously saying that it was a freedom of speech type of thing and they said, "Listen, if you post certain content "on there, we're not going to take it down." And I think it fell along the lines of deep fakes because there's a lot of these things coming out now, right? - Yeah. - Deep fakes basically being technology is smart enough now to put anybody's face and voice on a video image. And so, you know, there's examples out there where like Jennifer Lawrence said something and then they overlaid that with some other guy's voice and face and it looks like he said what she said. - Yep. - So somebody in response to them saying, we're not gonna take that kind of content down, we're not gonna regulate that on Instagram. somebody made a deep fake of Mark Zuckerberg talking about how much power he has with all the data on Facebook and posted it up on Instagram and thought, "Let's see how long it takes before they take it down." And they said they wouldn't do it. We should make sure we get a link for that for the show notes so if anybody wants to check that out. Yeah, it was odd because I don't know if it sounded in 100% like Zuck, but it certainly looked like him. It was pretty creepy. Yeah, really creepy. I'll make sure we add a link to that. Yeah. Yeah. - Let's go on to the next story here. On to the Apple news. - Yeah, do have a lot of news. What did this come from? This was before WWDC. - New MacBook Pro. - Yeah, new MacBook Pro rumored. - Well, I put rumored that we might be talking about different stories here. - Yeah, because there isn't new, there's the 2019 MacBook Pro. That's out already. So what are you talking about? - There's a rumored 16 inch MacBook Pro. - Oh, a different size. - That's what I keep hearing about. - Really? - Yeah. - Oh, interesting. that they have currently. - No, I have this one. - That would be a different body, which would be a whole different lineup, right? - So that's like the, that could be the performance. - That could be like the pro, you know, they just released the Mac pro last, we talked about that last episode. This might be the, - She's greater. - This might be the new Mac book pro. - Yeah, it could be. Well, I don't know if I like that. I think this is, well for one, 'cause this is, I don't care about that. I think this one's a year old, and it's gonna last a long time. But I already feel that this is heavy and bulky compared to laptops that are out there these days. And I couldn't imagine adding even more size to it. - Yeah. - Like if I'm on an airplane, I don't like it's not comfortable because this thing takes up more than the table tray. - That's the criteria. It has to fit on the table. - Yeah, ideally, like it wouldn't take up the whole table and I could still have a beverage. - Yeah. Yeah, and you know, I have this laptop and this is a, I don't remember the date of it anymore. This is many, many generations older than that one. Same size. - Yeah. - Also MacBook Pro. - Yes. - This one feels very bulky compared to that. - Yeah. - So yeah. And same thing, like if I'm on a plane, I don't like to use this because it's just huge. Not necessarily side to side, that doesn't bother me. It's more like opening the lid. If somebody leans back, like I can't even fully open the lid because it's so damn big. - That's a problem, especially right. I've had that same thing where you gotta have it tilted at an awkward angle and you can't really type. And it's just too wide. I need more elbow room. And there's just not, you don't get that, in a regular coach seat. Yeah. And you're not gonna get that, right? - Right. - Just you're sitting up front. - So what's the update here? So this is different than what I was thinking. So I'm curious now as to what the update is. - I don't know. I thought you put this in here. - I didn't put this in here. (laughs) Oh, I was just talking about the keyboard. I think, so I'm talking 2019 MacBook Pro. So these guys have had keyboard issues dating back what, three or four generations now. - Yes, with the specs of dust, getting into the keyboard mechanism and making it so it can't push down. - That's right, these laptop keys are, by the way, are super thin, if you don't know already, like they're paper thin, and they don't have a lot of travel on them. And so you barely even press down on it to get it to move. And what happened was the little spring underneath, dust would get in there, or some particles would get in there, maybe some food or something, I don't know. and it would stop the hinge from pressing down. So you couldn't use the keyboard, it wouldn't work. - It's very similar if you haven't used one of these. It's very similar in nature to almost like a mouse click. - That's a good way to look at it. Yeah, not a lot of travel. It just, right, yeah. - Whereas like a traditional, you think of the old school keyboards, you know, the big square ones. You know, the button travels quite a bit. - Right, right, exactly. - These don't move hard, they at all. - No, and so they've made some revisions to try to improve the, keep dust out of it. I think the last, the one that I have in 2018, they had a different material and had some kind of protective covering in there or something. Apparently that didn't solve it. I don't have these problems, by the way. I've not had these problems with my keyboard, but a lot of people do. And so 2019 MacBook, yeah, they have a different butterfly keyboard mechanism that's supposed to finally, there's two parts of the story. The first one is that this new design is supposed to fix the glitch once and for all. This would be the third fix, I think. Yeah, yeah. This would be the third version. So that's the first piece of news. The reason why I brought it up, though, more importantly, was just that they expanded their Apple support and Keyboard replacement program that they have going on for all the models going back to the beginning. So even last year's MacBook, the 2018 Mac book pros are eligible for keyboard replacement. So they'll upgrade to you to the generation three keyboard? Yes. Yes. You can do that. Now, I did see something on here that when I first read the story, it sounded like that they would just do it. No questions asked. I bring it into the Apple Store, get set up an appointment. Yeah. And then I saw something else that said that they would do some testing to decide if you needed it. Maybe they won't just do that for you unless they know that right. That's-- They'll put your MacBook in a sandstorm and see if any dust ingress gets in there. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, they'll get one of those sand blasters out. Right. You know, tear the screen apart. Get rid of your retina display. Yeah. Say, sorry, man. It looks like it works. Your keyboard works fine. There's nothing to see here. Nothing to see here for us. Move along. But yeah, for people that do have Macbook Pros, yeah. It's worth looking into, I think if you... - Well, that's on most of the lineup, I believe. - Yeah, I think even the new MacBook Air now has that keyboard as well. - So it's not just MacBook Pro, it's just Mac laptops in general. - Yep. - Across the border using this. - Anything within the last three or four years, I can't remember how long they've had them, but it's been a while. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, they updated the spring material. I think it's a different material altogether, and then they updated the dome on the keys, and so it should be much better now, hopefully. - Yeah. I don't know, maybe I'll try to get it at a replacement and see what happens. We can report back on that. - Yeah. Haven't had any of those problems yet though. - Well, you know what, you might be able to use on this if you get some dust in there. This is the next story. We're gonna skip on to, we've been teasing this one a couple of weeks, so I wanna get to this one. I'm very excited about it. - Oh, what? (laughs) Body wash for the Xbox. - Yeah, Xbox Body Wash. - Yeah, Xbox Body Wash. I thought this was a joke, dude, but this came out as a true story. that it's a partnership with Axe. Axe the body spray people. It's tech related, so I thought I'd put it in here. - Yeah, everybody wants to smell good. - Yeah, but they're making a shower gel now. - And where do you get the shower gel? Because I need to try this out. - Well, it's a partnership with Axe. So anywhere you get your Axe products, man. I think it's starting out in the UK actually or somewhere else. I don't think it's in the US. - The slogan for the Axe body wash - Is it lift your game? - Yeah. (laughing) - Oh my gosh, man. Yeah, I had to laugh at that when I saw it, so I had to pop it in there just to squeeze in at the end. - Gaming-oriented personal care products. - Yeah. - Because it makes sense, you know, like it appeals to gamers and a lot of gamers may need, you know, some body fresh and rough from time to time. - Well, sometimes you get into those, you know, games where you're sweating it out. - Get into a long session for a couple days. (laughing) - Yeah, wake up, like go in Friday night and come back like Sunday afternoon. - Might have a little funk in the little session. - Yeah. - You need a little Xbox body spray to keep yourself motivated, man. Keep your friends from leaving the room early. - Put down the Xbox controller, pick up the Xbox body wash. - Yeah, yeah, exactly right. - Never get away from your games, man. - So, yeah, check that out. They've got the whole lineup here, man. It's a really cool stuff. - Well, here you go. What does Xbox smell like? Microsoft says the answer is fruit, herbs, and various styles of wood. - Oh, okay. (laughing) - Oh god, dude. - Link's Xbox is the fresh scent of pulsing green citrus, featuring top notes of the fuck is that? Caffer lime? - Caffer. - Caffer? - I don't know. - Winter lemon. - Have you ever had that? Have you ever had winter lemon before? (laughing) - I've had a lemon in the winter. - There you go. - Close enough. - What else we got here? Aromatic herbal middle notes of mint and sage. - Yeah. - What do you bottom notes of patchouli and clear wood? - They've clearly put a lot of thought into the marketing. - Yeah, into the marketing here. - Yeah. - A lot of time spent on this. - Yeah. - Wonderful. Well, we'll have to, you know. - Oh, just for your information too. In case you're looking to purchase this, it comes in many things. So it's got a body spray, a deodorant and a shower gel. - I like that. I can get the whole kit. - I have a kit or something like that. - Great. - Perfect. - We have four minutes left. I wanna wrap up on mine. We squeeze in one more. - Oh, I don't know. We got time. We'll be quick. This was great too because I told you when I was in San Francisco, I loved, a lot of people hate kind of a thing, but I really love the scooters. I like the birds, man. - I love the scooters. - We've taken the birds everywhere, right? Up and down, down the Embarcadero, man. It was super fun. - Yeah, so if you're not familiar with this, in some of the bigger cities, oftentimes, not just the West Coast. - They're coming over. - They're coming Denver now. I mean, there's a variety out there, but they're sprouting up everywhere. They're not in Seattle though. They won't let that happen here yet. - Oh, not yet. They're working on it. But they have a number of different brands. There's Lyft, there's Bird. - Yeah. Who else is there? - Yeah, I don't know. - There's line by. - Line by. - It has a version of one. Maybe jump. I don't know if I've seen any jump scooters on making that up probably. - But they're just littered all over the sidewalk. You can use an app to figure out where they're at. You just jump on a scanner, jump on a scooter and away you go, they're electric. - Yeah. - They have pretty good range at 30 miles, something like that. - Yeah, they'll get you cross town. And, you know, yeah, they're pretty fast too. 15 miles an hour. - Right. - Some of them don't take the hills very well, as I found out the hard way. I might get lost in Petro Hill somewhere. I had to like walk the thing up because it just stopped to work. - Doesn't have the power for that. - Yeah. But I love them. They're great. And they're really nice last mile solution. If you're getting off the transit somewhere or you just want to get somewhere quickly downtown. I enjoy it and they're cheap. I mean, they're super cheap to operate. - Yeah, rent by the minute. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, exactly right. So anyway, there's a few companies out now that are trying to make scooters. You've seen like the single wheel and like you can buy these things. - Solar wheel. - Yeah, the solar wheel. We have a guy in there's one wheel. - The uses them here. - So he has the solar wheel. The one wheel is kind of the skateboard stance. - Oh, that's the one with the wheels in the middle and then you kind of have your feet on either side of it. - Yeah, it's like a big, all terrain tire. - Yeah, yeah, big, all wheel. - Yeah. - But the scooter is awesome, dude. I really like that idea. And so there's a few companies out there. There's a new one that I saw last week that I really love though it's boosted. And these guys have a new, this thing's fortified too. And these guys make some of those wheel products as well. It's not just the scooter. They've got a few different products in their lineup. - Skateboards. - Yeah, scooter. - Yeah, right. - Yeah. So they have now a pre-release. This thing is, I don't know if it's just a pre-order, it's not a Kickstarter or anything like that that I know of. So you might actually get one. You might actually get one of these unlike some of the other Kickstarter products that I've purchased and still waiting for. But no, just the whole thing about this, they're known for making really high quality, really buffy, I mean, this thing's heavy, it's like, what, 26 pounds, I think. Let me look at the specs. It's, you know, it'll get you strong, man. You just have 46 pounds. 46 pounds, man. I mean, I could be bench pressing this thing like in the park if I just wanted to get a workout in. Pretty impressive though. This thing will take two, it can handle two people. - Oh wow, that's pretty impressive. - You can handle two people on this scooter and it has a pretty good range. 22 miles on a single charge, not too shabby. You definitely want to bring a power pack with you. It doesn't look like it takes up a ton of space if you need to charge it at work so you can get home. But it's fast. I mean, a lot of these scooters can go top speed, 12, 15 mile an hour. This guy goes 24. Yeah, which is kind of nuts, 'cause 24 miles an hour on a scooter's pretty fucking fast. That is fast. Yeah, I mean, at that point, if you're in downtown, if you're in rush hour traffic, you're going faster than cars. (laughing) Yeah, it's kind of like zooming around a little motorcycle. So, yeah, 24 mile hour top speed also takes a 25% grade hill. Well, that's an important thing for around here. We talked about that in San Francisco, but Seattle's the same way if you're on the first, four streets near the waterfront. Pretty big hills. - We do, yeah. So this will help. This will help get you up to first hill without having to walk, which would be pretty cool. Three different ride modes, custom wide wheels. Yeah, the specs are nice. And it's regenerative braking, which I think is a nice feature to have out of a scooter as well. - Yep, I don't think I've ever heard of that on a scooter yet. - So they've thought about a lot of different things here. they've taken into account a lot of features that you don't get on a typical scooter. - Charge time's not bad, three hours. - Right, yeah, exactly. - Yeah, you come in and yeah, that's pretty good. A lot of power, quick charge time. - And I think it's, it's-- - It's a habit as well. - It's rugged too, right? It can handle weather, which is another complaint I've had about different, you know, segway or whatever, any of those kind of things are like back when like swag waves or whatever those were, you know, those little boards that you could stand on. Yeah, you know, that would keep you upright. Those couldn't handle any kind of water. Oh, oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, so like something like this, where you can actually ride it through some weather or puddles or whatever you encounter on the road, that's kind of a big difference. Yeah, they're close, just sealed off, pretty good. It's got some kind of IP rating on there. Yeah. Pretty good. Foldable. Yeah, it is. It is foldable. Like I said, it's just the heaviness. It's the 46 pounds it gets to you after a little while, but other than that, I don't have any complaints. I'm not sure I'm gonna be carrying it very much. If I'm riding it, I'm gonna fucking ride it, you know. Do you have one of these on order? - I didn't order it yet, but I'm thinking about it. I'd really like it. - You're three block commute. You're gonna need the scooter. - Well, that's the thing. It's a seven minute walk now, but it could be three if I had the boosted scooter. - Well, if you're going at 25 miles an hour. - Yeah, yeah, it'd be great. So I'm thinking about it. 1599 for the pre-order. So it's not the cheapest scooter out there, but it's well worth it for the value. It's the most fortified, like you said, kind of, and performant that I've seen out of all of them. So excited to see this one. - Yeah, well I'll let you know, maybe I will, maybe I will place a pre-order for that so I can get to work a little quicker. - Well, and I don't think it's this one, but I get advertised one all the time for the Tesla that fits in the front. So you fold it up and you put it in the front, and then, like you said, the last mile you drive to wherever you're going, and then you pull that out and go to wherever, you know, the last-- - That would be great. Yeah. - Oh, I like that. 'Cause you're not really using the front for anything else anyway, my thing. - Never use that thing. - Yeah, nobody does. - Put an electric scooter in there and away we go. - Yeah. - I'm sure Christina would be on board. Yeah, yeah, I think she'd love that. - Agreed. - All right, well, what do you say, buddy? - Well, should we wrap up the show? - Wrap it up, man, yeah. Karen wants to know if it's senior rated. I think it is. Maybe you put it into one of the third gear so you don't go 24 mile an hour or just try to get go. - Might be one of the three modes, senior mode. - Senior mode. (laughing) - Hey, I mean, she rode around on one of those swagways. So, and didn't have any trouble with it. So, I think it would work. I think she figured out. Anyway, let's wrap it up. So our artwork is provided by your name, the Gentle Giant. Check out more of his artwork at www.coffeecodecast.com/gentelgiant. 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